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jediaction · 02-18-2011, 09:48 AM

Yah but the polygon count would go have to go up and the object would be to big

Mr Kidnapper · 05:24 PM

Just to be off topic, that is incorrect. It does not mean Legend of Kaboom—it means Legendary Kaboom. Legend of Kaboom would be "Kaboom no Densetsu." Though if you so please, if I get my version of 3ds Max working I could easily create an object into subparts. A while ago I finished the "untextured plane", which is not a Harrier but a MiG-29, and converted it into a working Alice Object with fully functioning landing gear. It is still untextured though. I suck at textures.

Though your worry for polygon count confuses me. Why would a disfunctional object converted to a working Alice object increase polys so much that it would not work in alice? Why, yesterday I added an 80,000 poly model (43,000 vertices) into Alice and it worked fine. Then again, the day before that I installed a Radeon HD5830 into my desktop. The poly count limit for this some 7 year old school computer with a dual core Pentium 4 and onboard graphics I'm on now is roughly 20,000. The polygons created by splitting objects would only increase the count by some ten or hundred depending on the complexity of the object.

reuben2011 · 04-12-2011, 01:13 PM

Yeah, I don't see how converting objects to sub-objects of other objects would make the polygon count higher.

x2495iiii · 04-12-2011, 01:16 PM

He's assuming that you'd add polygons to the pieces you cut off to keep them from looking transparent from that side. It's good practice to do that, but if you're creative, you can avoid it.

room14 · 04-23-2011, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by x2495iiii

I was only off by one letter, dude. Plus, I coulda sworn Dentetsu actually meant something in Japanese, darnit

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dentestu means electric train....

TauTrumpsPi · 04-23-2011, 10:42 AM

But if it's a subpart you can save it as one whole object for usage in other worlds instead of seperate ones, can't you?

debussybunny563 · 04-23-2011, 12:22 PM

Correct. Each subpart can function as its own object. In fact, you can drag the subpart out of the object in the hierarchy and make it a new object.

For some reason, you can't do the reverse; attempting to place an object "under" another object in the hierarchy to make it a subpart doesn't work, which is what this thread is about.

iua · 04-24-2011, 12:48 PM

Couldn't you make a group in Alice and drag the subpart (and ONLY the subpart) into the folder then delete the main object it came with?

debussybunny563 · 04-24-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by iua

Couldn't you make a group in Alice and drag the subpart (and ONLY the subpart) into the folder then delete the main object it came with?

Sure. You don't have to drag it into a folder, though; anywhere works fine.

iua · 04-24-2011, 05:53 PM

That's what I thought.

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jediaction Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 5,064 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bel Air, Maryland	02-18-2011, 09:48 AM Yah but the polygon count would go have to go up and the object would be to big Website: www.salokingames.com FaceBook: www.facebook.com/SalokinGames

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Mr Kidnapper Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 442 Join Date: Feb 2011	04-11-2011, 05:11 PM Just to be off topic, that is incorrect. It does not mean Legend of Kaboom—it means Legendary Kaboom. Legend of Kaboom would be "Kaboom no Densetsu." Though if you so please, if I get my version of 3ds Max working I could easily create an object into subparts. A while ago I finished the "untextured plane", which is not a Harrier but a MiG-29, and converted it into a working Alice Object with fully functioning landing gear. It is still untextured though. I suck at textures. Though your worry for polygon count confuses me. Why would a disfunctional object converted to a working Alice object increase polys so much that it would not work in alice? Why, yesterday I added an 80,000 poly model (43,000 vertices) into Alice and it worked fine. Then again, the day before that I installed a Radeon HD5830 into my desktop. The poly count limit for this some 7 year old school computer with a dual core Pentium 4 and onboard graphics I'm on now is roughly 20,000. The polygons created by splitting objects would only increase the count by some ten or hundred depending on the complexity of the object. Last edited by Mr Kidnapper; 04-11-2011 at 05:24 PM.

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reuben2011 Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 489 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hawaii	04-12-2011, 01:13 PM Yeah, I don't see how converting objects to sub-objects of other objects would make the polygon count higher. Projects -Escape the Kitchen -That ninja animation -Hill Collision Upcoming Projects -Some penguin adventure game?

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x2495iiii Super Moderator Status: Offline Posts: 3,508 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Somewhere in the Continental U.S.	04-12-2011, 01:16 PM He's assuming that you'd add polygons to the pieces you cut off to keep them from looking transparent from that side. It's good practice to do that, but if you're creative, you can avoid it.

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TauTrumpsPi Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 399 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The diamond layer	04-23-2011, 10:42 AM But if it's a subpart you can save it as one whole object for usage in other worlds instead of seperate ones, can't you? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have plenty of common sense. I just choose to ignore it. -Calvin and Hobbes Wondering about my Avatar? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade Wondering about my username? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7vhMMXagQ

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debussybunny563 Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 852 Join Date: May 2010	04-23-2011, 12:22 PM Correct. Each subpart can function as its own object. In fact, you can drag the subpart out of the object in the hierarchy and make it a new object. For some reason, you can't do the reverse; attempting to place an object "under" another object in the hierarchy to make it a subpart doesn't work, which is what this thread is about. Last edited by debussybunny563; 12-21-2012 at 12:00 AM. \|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\| \|Link to weapons collection: http://www.alice.org/community/showthread.php?t=7368 \| \|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\| I have been dead for quite some time now; not much hope for resurrection.

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iua Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 111 Join Date: Jan 2011	04-24-2011, 12:48 PM Couldn't you make a group in Alice and drag the subpart (and ONLY the subpart) into the folder then delete the main object it came with? I was taught well...

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iua Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 111 Join Date: Jan 2011	04-24-2011, 05:53 PM That's what I thought. I was taught well...